Santa Clarita Valley History In Pictures
Charley Mack House (1 of 3)
23021 8th Street, Newhall, California

One of three French Norman or "gingerbread"-style houses built on 8th Street in 1930 by vaudeville actor Charles E. "Charley" Mack, who together with George Moran, made up the blackface comedic duo, the Two Black Crows. Thus, Mack called his little compound Crowland.

This house at 23021 8th Street is the smallest of the three, at 1,392 square feet. Seen here in 2013 (hb1404a-hb1404u) and 2009 (di0901a-di0901q), it is a 2+2 cottage with a swimming pool, a kitchen that that can't fit a diswasher or a modern, full-size refrigerator, and has a washer and dryer mounted in an external rock wall.

In the 1940s-1950s, this was the home of Judge Arthur C. Miller, justice of the peace for Soledad Township and a prominent Newhall attorney. For his law practice, he shared a 1941 office building with Dr. William D. Ross, DDS, at 24229 Spruce Street — the southwest corner of what is now called Main and 6th streets. Ross lived down the street from Miller at 22906 8th.

Next door to this house, up the hill at 23031 8th Street, is the largest of the three homes at 3,605 square feet. What's considered the "main" house — where W.C. Fields briefly lived — is down the hill at 22931 8th Street (corner Wayman), which comes in at 2,432 square feet.

The home shown here sits on an oddly shaped 19,600-square-foot lot (0.45 acres) and sold for $635,000 on August 12, 2013. It previously sold for $790,000 on January 12, 2005. Before that, on February 5, 1969, it sold for $32,000, according to public records.

About Charles E. "Charley" Mack.

Charles Mack was born Charles E. Selders in White Cloud, Kansas, on Nov. 22, 1887, but he grew up in Tacoma, Washington. He was half of the "Two Black Crows" blackface vaudeville team with George Moran, and he built a compound of three houses in Newhall where he lived in the 1920s and '30s.

By his own account, Mack played professional baseball as a young man in Olympia, Wash., where he was known as "the man in the iron mask" (he was a catcher). "The street car company owned the ball club," he writes, "and in my spare time I was a conductor on the cars. This so electrified me that I got a job as an electrician in a Tacoma theatre, my first experience in show business."

"Sometimes the actors ran out of juice," he continues, "and I supplied it to them in the shape of new acts. After a while I thought that as long as the actors liked my stuff I might as well write an act for myself and be an actor. So I scraped some black off the kitchen stove and went on the stage. I didn't have nerve enough to do it whiteface."

Mack — who signed his name "Charley Mack" — hired John Swor as his first partner and eventually hired Moran to replace him when Swor left.

"Since then I have called my act Moran & Mack — The Two Black Crows. Vaudeville audiences both here and in England seemed to like it," he writes.

Among their notable appearances were with W.C. Fields in vaudeville, and in the Ziegfeld Follies of 1920 and Earl Carroll's Vanities on Broadway.

"Phonograph records, based on my acts, made noises in about 7,000,000 homes," he writes. "I also got into a lot more million living rooms through the radio."

"The Two Black Crows" became a weekly radio show in 1928 and centered around corny (and usually non-racial) jokes and gags. Like their 1929 Paramount comedy of the same name, one of their catch phrases was "Why bring that up?" It was Mack's retort when Moran would remind him of something better left forgotten. Another was, "Who wants a worm, anyhow?" — Mack's retort when Moran would tell a parable ending in the admontion, "The early bird catches the worm."

Mack also wrote a novel in 1928, "The Two Black Crows in the A.E.F.," which Paramount turned into the 1930 Mack & Moran picture, "Anybody's War."

Meanwhile, Newhall was close enough to Hollywood yet remote enough to serve as a getaway. Mack built himself a unique gingerbread home in the French Norman style on 8th Street, west of Market Street, around 1924, and added two smaller cottages at the end (top) of 8th Street. Collectively the compound was known as Crowland. Mack entertained the likes of William S. Hart, Noah Beery, his partner Moran, and many other celebrities.

Moran and Mack's entry into movies at the height of their popularity caused a rupture. Moran reportedly sued Mack in a salary dispute over 1929's "Why Bring That Up?"; the court ruled that Mack owned the act and could set the salaries. Moran left and Mack replaced him with John Swor's brother, Bert Swor, who became the new "Moran." George Moran sued in January 1930 to block the new duo from using "his" name, but court documents showed that Moran wasn't George Moran's real name; it was George Searcy.

The turmoil in the partnership was short-lived. Charles Mack and George Moran appeared together in at least four more films from 1930 to 1933, and Moran was in the car when Mack died in a crash in Mesa, Ariz., on Jan. 11, 1934.

Also in the car was film pioneer Mack Sennett, who had attempted a comeback in 1932 when he directed a Mack and Moran picture, "Hypnotized." The group, which included Mack's wife Myrtle and daughter Mary Jane, was reportedly en route back from signing a contract with Columbia in New York. The others weren't seriously injured.

Following Mack's death, W.C. Fields lived in Mack's main 8th Street house for a short time (circa 1935-36). Moran tried to revive the Two Black Crows with different partners, without success; he did appear in two later W.C. Fields films: "The Bank Dick" and "My Little Chickadee" (both 1940); "Chickadee" is said to have filmed in a house at Monogram Ranch, later called Melody Ranch, in Placerita Canyon. That same year, Monogram exec Ray Johnston purchased Mack's main house on 8th Street. He sold it in 1943.

"Our" Charles Mack should not be confused with 1920s actor Charles Emmett Mack, who died in a 1927 car crash.

Further reading: 8th Street Home Popular with Vaudeville Greats.

Further reading: Architect Sues Mack for False Claims About 8th Street House Designs, 1931.

HB1404: Photos by the 2013 listing agent at Coldwell Banker Vista Realty. DI0902: Photos by Sharon Divis. Download original images here.


Charley Mack


Newhall House Story


Letter Authorizing Construction 7-16-1929


Mack's 1928 Novel


"Why Bring That Up?" 1929 (Mult.)


"Anybody's War" 1930


Moran & Mack Lawsuit 1930


Paramount Ad 1930


In Character 1931


Architect Sues 1931


Sues Ex-Secretary for Embezzlement 1932


Wm. S. Hart & Charley Mack in Newhall 1933


Wallace Beery, Hart, Moran, Mack in Newhall 1933


With Wm. S. Hart in Newhall 1933


With Moran ~1933


W.C. Fields at Mack House ~1935


Main House
22931 8th St.


Other Mack Hous
23021 8th St.


Other Mack House
23031 8th St.

RETURN TO TOP ]   RETURN TO MAIN INDEX ]   PHOTO CREDITS ]   BIBLIOGRAPHY ]   BOOKS FOR SALE ] is another service of SCVTV, a 501c3 Nonprofit • Site contents ©SCVTV • Additional copyrights apply